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Actually, I’d wanted Halinka to go to Israel instead of me – after the war she was grown up. But she didn’t want to, and we wouldn’t both have got permission to leave the country. They didn’t let people go to Israel, because they were afraid to let their precious Jews go. I had a lots of problems, I was refused permission to go several times, but in the end I succeeded and I went. That was in maybe 1952 or 1953. I thought that in time I’d persuade Halinka; I was brought up in a very Jewish home, but she wasn’t.
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Emilia Leibel