At Auschwitz we stood on the railway ramp because Schindler wouldn't let us be put in those blocks, because he wanted to have all of us. He was waiting for a transport. At the time I wasn't aware whether he'd paid for it or hadn't paid for it, whether he'd pulled any strings. And indeed, our group squatted by the railway tracks and waited for wagons. And so finally, I don't know after how many days – whether it was three days or five days I can't say because I can't remember – these wagons came in, these goods wagons.
And it started. ‘Everybody from Schindler get up!' and there were about 300 people. Schindler said: ‘Don't worry, you're all going with me.' Well, and there were these OD-men, the so-called Jewish police-- the Ordnungsdienst, the law and order.
They were Jews, prisoners too. Schindler picked three of those OD-men and they were to take us into the wagons, according to the list. And it so happened that one of the OD-men, had evidently taken some money from someone, because he didn't read my name out, but took someone else instead of me. Ten of us he didn't read out.
We are standing there, and Schindler is by the wagons. I run to him, look, and the wagons are starting to move off, they're locking the wagons. And I tell him that he didn't read me out.
And he says, ‘What do you mean?!' – because he even knew me personally, I mean he knew that I'd worked for him, because he'd known me from the camp. He calls the OD-man, and he says ‘Hang on, hang on, hang on.' How he the OD-man pushed me, how he flayed me with that whip!
The wagons moved off, and the ten of us stayed behind; that was in Birkenau.