Lubov Ratmanskaya's paternal aunts Manya Gertsensteyn, Makhlya Gudzenko, and their niece Tsipa Belokopytova

Lubov Ratmanskaya's paternal aunts Manya Gertsensteyn, Makhlya Gudzenko, and their niece Tsipa Belokopytova
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  • Photo taken in:
    Kiev
    Country name at time of photo:
    USSR
    Country name today:
    Ukraine
My father's sisters: Manya Gertsensteyn, Makhlya Gudzenko, and their niece Tsipa Belokopytova. The photo was taken in Kiev in the 1920s. My grandparents had seven children. All of the children had some profession. My grandfather's name was Leib Ramantsky. That's why all girls who were born to the Ratmansky family were named Lubov, and all the boys, Lev. Kiev was outside the Jewish Pale of Settlement, but my grandfather was allowed to live in Kiev as a craftsman. He was an ink maker - he made ink according to his own recipe. His sons were allowed to live in Kiev until they came of age, and his daughters, until they got married. My grandparents were religious. Some of their children and grandchildren were religious, too, and some weren't. My father didn't tell me about the life of his family before the Revolution of 1917. Before 1917 they didn't hide their Jewish origin, but afterwards, somehow it didn't seem the right time to talk about it. I only know that the family was very poor. Aunt Manya was a nurse, and during World War II she was at the front. In general she worked in different military hospitals. Aunt Vera and aunt Makhlya were tailors. Aunt Tsipa and her husband had horses and a stable. When we moved to Kiev in 1917, we lived in my paternal grandmother's flat. Aunt Tsipa and her family also lived there. Her husband drew horses very well. Every time we would come over, he would draw horses for us. Their son Pinya became an artist. His children still live in the same street that we lived in.

Interview details

Interviewee: Lubov Ratmanskaya
Interviewer:
Yulia Smelianskaya
Month of interview:
November
Year of interview:
2001
Kiev, Ukraine

KEY PERSON

Manya Gertsensteyn
Jewish name:
Tsipa
Decade of birth:
1870
Country name at time of birth:
Russia
Year of death:
1970
City of death:
Kiev
Country of death:
Russia
Died:
after WW II
Occupation
before WW II:
Self-employed craftsman in non-elite crafts
after WW II:
Skilled self-employed
Family names
  • Previous family name: 
    Ratmanskaya
    Reason for changing: 
    Marriage
    Decade of changing: 
    1910

Other Person

Makhlya Gudzenko
Decade of birth:
1880
Country name at time of birth:
Russia
Year of death:
1970
Country of death:
Russia
Died:
after WW II
Occupation
before WW II:
Manual laborer
after WW II:
Assistant in health care

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